Service slot ram 1500. Mike: Some things I’d like to add to what you said is that if it’s a double-deck game or a single-deck game, you have to wait until the dealer shuffles the cards. You can’t jump in, even if it’s in between hands, because most places have a no mid-round, mid-shoe entry rule. No Mid-Shoe Entry Signs When cruising the casino floor in search of a blackjack table to play at, you are eventually going to see a sign on a table that says ‘No Mid-Shoe Entry.’ This means that you can’t join that table until the current players have played through the shoe. The best strategy for counting cards would be to use a team to take advantage of mid-shoe entry being allowed on the lower limit tables. If you’re going to be a solo card counter at Mohegan Sun, be sure you’re aggressively backing out of negative shoes and consistently moving to fresh tables. Card counting is an advantage-play method that helps you determine when the blackjack odds are in your favor. It involves tracking cards as they come out of the shoe and assigning them point values. The running count helps you figure out when the shoe is rich in aces and 10-value cards. No mid-shoe entry Use of CSM to shuffle the cards Your goal is to be sure that the blackjack game you are about to play offers mostly the good (player favorable) rules. ESTIMATING THE HOUSE EDGE FOR ANY GAME.

cadillacjack

I'm trying to find out how prevelant the no mid shoe entry policy is throughout vegas and around the country. I'm referring specifically to the double deck games.
For those that have this policy is it simply a security measure to prevent counters?

aceofspades

I know at Aria people come in mid-shoe on 2D all the time

1BB

It varies from casino to casino and even from pit to pit. It is common in high limit rooms. I've seen players ask for and be granted NMSE at table minimums as low as $25 all over the country. It is to prevent players from wonging in when the game goes positive. The casinos will tell you that it's to prevent other players from messing up your hands. They really do care. :-)

Many people, especially ignorant people, want to punish you for speaking the truth. - Mahatma Ghandi

Actually it's so the current players can play without shoe interference. Look at $5 min tables -- can you Wong in? Probably. Can you wong in the $100 min table? Probably not. If you try to play and they tell you no, try asking the other players if they mind. If no one cares if you play, good chance they'll let you play.

AxiomOfChoice

I know at Aria people come in mid-shoe on 2D all the time

At MGM casinos in Vegas, they only have their no mid-shoe entry rule on their crappy 6/5 SD games. The DD games with the 1/4% house edge have no such rule. Then again, they do watch those games pretty closely, so I'm sure that someone back-counting and wonging in would be caught quickly.

Ibeatyouraces

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AxiomOfChoice

Every time I've played the Mirage's, Luxors, NYNY DD game, it's been NMSE. Can't speak for the other places but this was a couple years ago.

They absolutely do not have this rule at MGM Grand. People enter mid-shoe frequently (not necessarily because I'm back-counting)
I have played at NYNY and did not see a sign on the table with the rule. They may have had it without posting the rule, I guess. Or I may have just missed the sign. I was the only person in the high limit room at the time, so it wasn't relevant. This was also a couple of years ago. I did get away with surrendering once :)

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I do not remember seeing the rule at Mandalay Bay, although I can't be 100% sure about that. I have not played at Luxor or Mirage. I have not played the DD at Aria either, but I believe Ace said that they don't have the rule there.

Ibeatyouraces

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kewlj

I am not going to list who does and doesn't employ NMSE, but since the OP said 'throughout vegas', I will point out that there are a handful of casinos (non-strip) that employ a different tactic, in that they allow you to enter mid shoe, but only at table minimum until the shuffle.

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